Tuesday, June 8, 2010
Leah vs. Shakira
She might be quiet during class, but I wouldn't want to debate Leah. She not only creatively applied the Fourth Amendment, she was able to get to the roots of the evils of slavery--treatment. Earlier comments to the class focused on getting the abolishment side to really step up their rhetoric and reasoning for why one would care if humans are treated poorly (consider that advocates for slavery didn't necessarily think that slaves were humans or deserve equal treatment) Leah was able to punch this a hole in this today. Shakira attempted to beat her opponent with strategy, not necessarily a horrible approach being that scoring could determine the debate. She is the only student to every attempt to deliver 5 arguments but as we learned today, this might not be the most effective strategy. 2-3 strong arguments seem to still hold more weight over 4-5 less argued points.
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i liked thier arguments. they both shouldve spoken a little louder, and i liked how shakira tried to fit in 5 points. but i found out today that that isnt the best option. i liked Lia's points about harsh treatment.
ReplyDeletei like how they had their speech ready, and their confidence while debating each other. But i really thought they should use a bit more preparation for CX. Congrats to Leah for winning =]
ReplyDeleteThey both had organized speeches. It was cool that Shakira tried to use five agurments. And Leah had eveidence about the harsh treatment slaves encountered.
ReplyDeleteI would have liked to see this debate unfortunately I didn't have the opportunity to do so. Although I knew Leah had solid arguments ready for Shakirah. Congradulations to both debaters.
ReplyDeletei like they put their person in to the argument, Shakira she used five argument it's good, but the time was short.. but they doing good job!..
ReplyDeleteLooks like it was a great debate. I shouldn't miss it. But I think 5 argument are too much. It don't have enough time to talk about it. Congrats to both debater.
ReplyDeletewow, what a debate it was great. they both had a lot of evidence, i liked leah's arguments.
ReplyDeleteleah's 3 arguments were stronger than shakira's 5 arguments. and the rebuttal were okay.
i think both of you did good
Leah expertly explained why it should matter if slaves were being treated inhumanly or not. She hammered in who decided if they were 'men' or not. (i.e DOI) This was genius and I think this is what made her have a well deserved win for the 'for abolishment' side. Shakira tried to deliver 5 arguments. If the allotted time was longer, she would have had a lot more time to make these arguments stronger, but she could not analyze any of them critically. I think this is where she took her fall in this debate. I was so intrigued during the whole debate, and as all others might realize, against slavery is coming up and we're gonna' knock you guys right out of the ballpark.
ReplyDeleteI loved the way Leah used the Constitution in her rebuttal. Not only did she hammer the 8th amendment, she hammered the 4th amendment in an unusual way. If Shakira had only used 3 arguments with strong evidence she would have done a better job. There is no way a person can give 5 arguments with strong evidence in 5 minutes. Congrats Leah! We're tied up now!
ReplyDeleteThe debate was good. Leah have good argument.She was strong on cx. Shakira did well on debate. Both did very well on debate. Congrats to both.
ReplyDeletefor slavery is getting their butts whooped ' , ! good job abloishers ! :) but i wanna challenge somebody from the abloishment side.
ReplyDeleteIt was an good debate to sit there and watch, leah a quiet person but in shock was a good debater both were introduction was good and so as the CX but leah handly the CX it was an overall good debate
ReplyDeleteThe debate was good they both had a lot of evidence in there speech and there rebutal. But it was kind of difficult to decicde which one won for me because they were good.But they both did a good job.
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